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HOW TO FIX CRAZY TIMING ISSUES / INCORRECTLY INSTALLED TIMING CHAINS
StryfeS13 Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:23 am
HOW TO FIX AN INCORRECTLY INSTALLED LOWER TIMING CHAIN WITHOUT PULLING OFF THE LOWER FRONT COVER.
If you have to turn your distributor all the way to the right or left to get it close to correct timing, chances are this is your problem. If you can not get your distributor to line up how it is supposed to, this also might be your problem. This made timing a living hell for me, and I finally figured it out. Note: if you are rebuilding a KA24DE, ALWAYS line up the colored marks on the chain!! The chain IS just a chain, but the idler sprocket MUST be in time with the crank sprocket!
1. Set your motor to TDC on compression stroke. What I do is take out my #1 spark plug, then reinstall the spark plug boot. I crank the motor over until the boot comes flying out, and then I put a socket on the crank pulley, and set it to exact TDC. Should look like this.
MAKE SURE NOT TO TURN THE MOTOR AT ALL DURING THIS ENTIRE PROCESS.
2. Take off your valve cover (10MM bolts if S13, not sure about S14.)
3. Take off your front timing cover, 12MM socket
4. Remove your cam sprockets, upper tensioner, and cam chain.
5. Now take a look at your idler sprocket (the sprocket that bolts into your cylinder head) If the notch on the sprocket is not exactly where it is in this picture, then you need to fix it. Loosen the idler sprocket bolt, you'll need either an impact or breaker bar, BUT DONT TAKE IT OFF YET. You have to find a way to keep tension on the lower chain, or else it will collapse and skip teeth and cause you to have to take off your whole front cover, which is a pain. I used my egr tube and shoved it between both sides of the chain. Once you do that you can take it off.
6. After you get it to the right position, you can reinstall the cam chain. But make sure to line up the links. Just like this.
-Bottom notch
-Cam notches
7. Make sure your idler sprocket is torqued to 65 ft lbs, and cam bolts at 80 lbs. I know that the FSM says to make the cam bolts tighter than that, but remember your cams are old, and you dont want to crack them. (i have done it before.)
8. Reinstall the upper tensioner(QUARTER TURN PAST SNUG OR IT WILL STRIP), take out or replace your timing chain guides if you still have them.
9. Make sure everything is perfect one last time, then install upper front timing cover with RTV.
10. Install valve cover.
11. Install distributor with the rotor pointing directly at #1 spark plug. If S13, it should be perfectly horizontal, if S14 it should slightly point up.
12. Done!
If you have to turn your distributor all the way to the right or left to get it close to correct timing, chances are this is your problem. If you can not get your distributor to line up how it is supposed to, this also might be your problem. This made timing a living hell for me, and I finally figured it out. Note: if you are rebuilding a KA24DE, ALWAYS line up the colored marks on the chain!! The chain IS just a chain, but the idler sprocket MUST be in time with the crank sprocket!
1. Set your motor to TDC on compression stroke. What I do is take out my #1 spark plug, then reinstall the spark plug boot. I crank the motor over until the boot comes flying out, and then I put a socket on the crank pulley, and set it to exact TDC. Should look like this.
MAKE SURE NOT TO TURN THE MOTOR AT ALL DURING THIS ENTIRE PROCESS.
2. Take off your valve cover (10MM bolts if S13, not sure about S14.)
3. Take off your front timing cover, 12MM socket
4. Remove your cam sprockets, upper tensioner, and cam chain.
5. Now take a look at your idler sprocket (the sprocket that bolts into your cylinder head) If the notch on the sprocket is not exactly where it is in this picture, then you need to fix it. Loosen the idler sprocket bolt, you'll need either an impact or breaker bar, BUT DONT TAKE IT OFF YET. You have to find a way to keep tension on the lower chain, or else it will collapse and skip teeth and cause you to have to take off your whole front cover, which is a pain. I used my egr tube and shoved it between both sides of the chain. Once you do that you can take it off.
6. After you get it to the right position, you can reinstall the cam chain. But make sure to line up the links. Just like this.
-Bottom notch
-Cam notches
7. Make sure your idler sprocket is torqued to 65 ft lbs, and cam bolts at 80 lbs. I know that the FSM says to make the cam bolts tighter than that, but remember your cams are old, and you dont want to crack them. (i have done it before.)
8. Reinstall the upper tensioner(QUARTER TURN PAST SNUG OR IT WILL STRIP), take out or replace your timing chain guides if you still have them.
9. Make sure everything is perfect one last time, then install upper front timing cover with RTV.
10. Install valve cover.
11. Install distributor with the rotor pointing directly at #1 spark plug. If S13, it should be perfectly horizontal, if S14 it should slightly point up.
12. Done!
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Re: HOW TO FIX CRAZY TIMING ISSUES / INCORRECTLY INSTALLED TIMING CHAINS
onevia drift Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:47 pm
+1... nice write-up
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Re: HOW TO FIX CRAZY TIMING ISSUES / INCORRECTLY INSTALLED TIMING CHAINS
Thrilla559 Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:47 pm
Awesome write up!!
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Re: HOW TO FIX CRAZY TIMING ISSUES / INCORRECTLY INSTALLED TIMING CHAINS
JankyS13 Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:34 pm
nice write up, could have used this last time I was doing the timing on my motor.
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